What is the Real Economy?
The ‘Real Economy’ is made up of the farmers, manufacturers, tourist operators and service providers that sell to the world and generate New Zealand’s external income. As Angus Tait once said, “There are three ways to generate wealth; you farm things, you make things or you dig things up.” That is the essence of the real economy.
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mist Posted:
Perhaps IMF formulas are not accurate for this area.
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mist Posted:
" tax increases in one area supports decreases in another is correct" it can only be correct if it is true. Observation and repeated sampling has proven that the hypothesis is faulty. Tax increases in one area are not causally linked to decreases elsewhere - not "possibly", not "it adds up". "Philosophically" it _might_ but testing proves it does not. One could even say "it should" but we both know an equivalent term for "it should" is "doesn't" What drives taxes down is political advantage. If a political party has an agenda they don't want the public to look at too closely, then sweeters (aka "bait") is put forwards. Tax decreases is a classic. This can be achieved because the tax increases and tax decreases are not linked. They're not zero sum nor do they have causal or proportional connection. This is because the "buffer solution" in the middle is that endless hole. tax increase means more spending. tax decrease means more government borrowing. The in/out relationship is decoupled, through size and power in the marketplace (financial economy). The abysmal productivity is because of the massive overheads from doing business in NZ. personal taxes double the rates of the US, huge taxes on goods and services, massive levies on critical imports, price gouging in the energy and communications markets, interest rates 300 to 500 times that of the US!, and not nearly the number of cost writeoffs either (subscriptions, training, vehicle rebates). Nor would get the 401k option either, of rebuying into the same market and not having to pay CGT. Oh and horrendous ever inflating local rates, again much much higher, for less, than our foreign counterparts (excepting Scandinavian countries). Our "abysmal production" is a result of this overtaxation being sand in the gears of the economy, wearing it down and rubbing out real growth. Putting CGT makes that problem worse!! And to sum up... your last comment.... O.M.G. You think that improving our situation, of people not wanting to save or invest in government buggered industry is to bugger up the ability to accumulate equity in useful assets??????? Where do you think people are going to get savings or capital to do anything??? (including retiring when their earning ability is severely reduced!) Put it in finance companies???????????? Buy the oh-so-excellently-performing NZX? In the few companies squeaking by?
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John Walley Posted:
I think we agree on the lending without security issue. It might well be that the intent to change the source of tax and not increase government spending is fictitious, however given the provision that government spending does not change the statement that tax increases in one area supports decreases in another is correct. The broader point is demonstrated by the Romney situation where he pays tax at half the rate of his salaried staff - and in the USA capital gains carry a 15% tax rate - it will be interesting to see how that one pans out. For New Zealand the economic distortions supported by the complete absence of capital gains tax are clear from our abysmal productivity record. Why save, why invest in production (taxed interest paid or via the income statement) when money can be made without tax from passive asset appreciation.
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carl Posted:
"a Capital Gains Tax means less tax in other areas or lower borrowing for the same amount of government spending. " Only in your wildest dreams, mate. a drip or a bucketful does not change an infinite hole. The only reduction in tax you would see is short-term, and done to create a perception. Once the elephant was sold it'll be put back up, often with extra claw-back clauses to catch more cash. And Banks do lend for shares - but at lower rates of coverage. 50% for business assets is rule of thumb, 80% for first mortgages, 20-25% for basic unencumbered share parcels. with additional security and reasonable ability to cover debt servicing compliance. That's the ball. So why's the man (original poster) running with such blatantly obvious fouls????
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DGS Posted:
SEE ABOVE
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Survey - Growth continues at snail's pace


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 The latest New Zealand Manufacturers and Exporters Association (NZMEA) Survey of Business Conditions completed during July 2010, shows that total sales in June 2010 increased 7.4% (export sales increased by 11% with domestic sales increasing 4%) on June 2009.

The NZMEA survey sample this month covered NZ$574m in annualised sales, with an export content of 42%.

Net confidence plummeted to zero, down from the net plus 50 reported last month.

The current performance index (a combination of profitability and cash flow) is at 99, down from the previous month’s 104.5, the change index (capacity utilisation, staff levels, orders and inventories) went up to 107 from 105.5 last month, and the forecast index (investment, sales, profitability and staff) is at 103, down on the June’s result of 105. Anything less than 100 indicates a contraction.

The reported constraints were: 8% capacity, 17% staff and markets 75%.

Staff numbers for June increased year on year by 2%.

“Some bad news coming out in the economy over the past month has seen confidence in the manufacturing sector drop away quickly despite steady, if slow, growth,” says NZMEA Chief Executive John Walley.

“Comments from manufacturers reflect a patchy trading environment. Some respondents reported that they are now back to 2008 staffing levels.”

“Markets have remained as the major constraint, but some difficulty getting skilled staff is starting to return now that there is some growth in employee numbers again."

“Manufacturers exporting into Australia and the United States reported good trading conditions, but those trading into Europe reported weak demand exacerbated by adverse currency cross-rates. Domestic trade has remained quiet.”

“There was a lot of concern about the damage that the interest rate rises we have seen already and an upward bias on the Official Cash Rate could do to the recovery in the manufacturing sector. There is a danger that hikes in the OCR could send the New Zealand dollar back up to levels where exporters are priced out of markets in the United States and Europe in particular."

“Many respondents indicated that they were unsure what sort of inflationary pressures the Reserve Bank Governor was reacting to because they do not see much strength in the New Zealand economy and do not foresee any major pick up any time soon. Certainly Alan Bollard’s comment that manufacturing confidence is still elevated has been proved wrong by this survey.”

“Comments from those in the real economy have been that the Reserve Bank has moved far too early.”

The Bank of New Zealand’s Economy Watch commented that, “The lows in the external deficit are most probably behind us. This is a reminder that the economy still has major rebalancing issues on the horizon”.

“It is disappointing to see margins in our tradeable sector being torn to shreds again just when it looked like some rebalancing of the economy was going to occur,” says Mr Walley. A review of the Reserve Bank Act must be an urgent priority for the Government if all the economic rebalancing comments are to be seen as anything more than rhetoric.”
 

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