What is the Real Economy?
The ‘Real Economy’ is made up of the farmers, manufacturers, tourist operators and service providers that sell to the world and generate New Zealand’s external income. As Angus Tait once said, “There are three ways to generate wealth; you farm things, you make things or you dig things up.” That is the essence of the real economy.
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mist Posted:
Perhaps IMF formulas are not accurate for this area.
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mist Posted:
" tax increases in one area supports decreases in another is correct" it can only be correct if it is true. Observation and repeated sampling has proven that the hypothesis is faulty. Tax increases in one area are not causally linked to decreases elsewhere - not "possibly", not "it adds up". "Philosophically" it _might_ but testing proves it does not. One could even say "it should" but we both know an equivalent term for "it should" is "doesn't" What drives taxes down is political advantage. If a political party has an agenda they don't want the public to look at too closely, then sweeters (aka "bait") is put forwards. Tax decreases is a classic. This can be achieved because the tax increases and tax decreases are not linked. They're not zero sum nor do they have causal or proportional connection. This is because the "buffer solution" in the middle is that endless hole. tax increase means more spending. tax decrease means more government borrowing. The in/out relationship is decoupled, through size and power in the marketplace (financial economy). The abysmal productivity is because of the massive overheads from doing business in NZ. personal taxes double the rates of the US, huge taxes on goods and services, massive levies on critical imports, price gouging in the energy and communications markets, interest rates 300 to 500 times that of the US!, and not nearly the number of cost writeoffs either (subscriptions, training, vehicle rebates). Nor would get the 401k option either, of rebuying into the same market and not having to pay CGT. Oh and horrendous ever inflating local rates, again much much higher, for less, than our foreign counterparts (excepting Scandinavian countries). Our "abysmal production" is a result of this overtaxation being sand in the gears of the economy, wearing it down and rubbing out real growth. Putting CGT makes that problem worse!! And to sum up... your last comment.... O.M.G. You think that improving our situation, of people not wanting to save or invest in government buggered industry is to bugger up the ability to accumulate equity in useful assets??????? Where do you think people are going to get savings or capital to do anything??? (including retiring when their earning ability is severely reduced!) Put it in finance companies???????????? Buy the oh-so-excellently-performing NZX? In the few companies squeaking by?
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John Walley Posted:
I think we agree on the lending without security issue. It might well be that the intent to change the source of tax and not increase government spending is fictitious, however given the provision that government spending does not change the statement that tax increases in one area supports decreases in another is correct. The broader point is demonstrated by the Romney situation where he pays tax at half the rate of his salaried staff - and in the USA capital gains carry a 15% tax rate - it will be interesting to see how that one pans out. For New Zealand the economic distortions supported by the complete absence of capital gains tax are clear from our abysmal productivity record. Why save, why invest in production (taxed interest paid or via the income statement) when money can be made without tax from passive asset appreciation.
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carl Posted:
"a Capital Gains Tax means less tax in other areas or lower borrowing for the same amount of government spending. " Only in your wildest dreams, mate. a drip or a bucketful does not change an infinite hole. The only reduction in tax you would see is short-term, and done to create a perception. Once the elephant was sold it'll be put back up, often with extra claw-back clauses to catch more cash. And Banks do lend for shares - but at lower rates of coverage. 50% for business assets is rule of thumb, 80% for first mortgages, 20-25% for basic unencumbered share parcels. with additional security and reasonable ability to cover debt servicing compliance. That's the ball. So why's the man (original poster) running with such blatantly obvious fouls????
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DGS Posted:
SEE ABOVE
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The latest New Zealand Manufacturers and Exporters Association (NZMEA) Survey of Business Conditions completed during August 2010, shows total sales in July 2010 increased 16% (export sales increased by 15% with domestic sales increasing 18%) on July 2009.

The NZMEA survey sample this month covered NZ$348m in annualised sales, with an export content of 39%.

Net confidence rose to 30, up from the 0 result reported last month.

The current performance index (a combination of profitability and cash flow) is at 103.5, up from 99 in June, the change index (capacity utilisation, staff levels, orders and inventories) went down to 101 from 103 in the last survey, and the forecast index (investment, sales, profitability and staff) is at 105.5, down on June’s result of 107. Anything less than 100 indicates a contraction.

Constraints reported were 75% markets and 10% capital and 20% skilled staff.

Staff numbers for July increased year on year by 7%.

“The combination of more substantial sales growth and a lift in confidence is encouraging,” says NZMEA Chief Executive John Walley. “Earlier in the year we had a ‘dead cat’ bounce with confidence surveys predicting a strong recovery, but this set of statistics with sales and staff numbers increasing is far more convincing. Increases in export sales add substance to the recovery.”

“The future expectations and index numbers confirm this upward trend.”

“Markets have remained a major concern and this presents the biggest threat to the recovery. If the United States and Europe experience a double dip recession there is every reason to expect we will be dragged down with them. Some decent growth numbers in Asia will not be enough to sustain our export sector on their own. With a return to hiring in the manufacturing sector we are also starting to see some skill shortages in key areas.”

“A third Official Cash Rate rise in September has the potential to add to the damage done by the earlier increases and to further destabilise any recovery. The RBNZ tightened far too early and a pause has now been signalled, any failure to follow through will be costly.”

“The work of the Savings Working Group should be positive for manufacturers as this represents a major source of our economic problems, but the restrictions imposed by the terms of reference will limit its effect. It is difficult to assess the savings problem without looking at tax issues which determine where savings are likely to be invested and superannuation entitlements which determine how and when savings will be spent. There is little point setting up these working groups if they are not allowed to conduct a full analysis of the issues and if findings are largely ignored as they have been with earlier working group reports.”

“If we save more but returns on domestic investment are poor due to fiscal policy distortions, then higher savings would rightly be invested offshore. Such an outcome would do little for domestic growth and jobs. We need complete answers if progress is to be made.”

 

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